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CX / Gravel Canyon Grail

Discussion in 'Cycling Department Forum' started by Bram, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. Bram

    Bram Senior Member

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    For a carbon bike with top spec Ultegra DI2, Ultegra and even lower 105 components I don't think it's expensive at all. The same specs on another brand would cost a lot more than what Canyon are charging.
     
  2. Orione532

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    Yeah you are probably right about the price considering the frame material

    I’m not entirely sure about the handlebar
     
  3. Jan Larsen

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    This looks like a prime example of german (over)engineering :). From what I can see If you put your hands on the lower part of the handlebar, it'll definately break your wrists in a crash.
     
  4. Bram

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    Me neither. Hated it with passion yesterday but after seeing some cool photographs today I am slowly changing my mind :) It's growing on me.

    canyon grail hover bar.jpg
     
  5. Orione532

    Orione532 Senior Member

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    that's the words I was looknig for!
     
  6. Orione532

    Orione532 Senior Member

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    nice pic... BUT
    it looks like the Red Baron biplane : unamused:

    MUUUUUUUUUTTTTTLEYYYYYYYYYYY o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
     

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  7. Jim Layee

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    It looks like they use the geometry of a full on xc race bike and realised last minute that wouldn't work for a gravel bike and rather than expensively redesign the front end they bodged a way to raise the bars.
    This has left 3 huge problems;
    1, Don't like the bar height ? No solution
    2, Don't like the bar width ? No solution
    3. Don't like the stem length ? No solution

    I have the solution to all those 3 problems - Don't buy this bike and reward major design flaws.
     
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  8. Orione532

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    People in Italy is going crazy for the new canyon bike o_O
     

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  9. dazzyb2k3

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    ROFL. That's hilarious :laughing:
     
  10. Bram

    Bram Senior Member

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    Whahaha, you can say whatever you want but people do talk about this bike. If it was just for marketing the plan worked :)

    Jokes aside i must say it's growing on me. Not the frontend perse but the rest of the bike looks spot on.
     
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  11. Orione532

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    my opinion?
    go for it!
    if you like it, it is 4 you.

    people mock me because I like the slate and teh phibra so...
     
  12. Bram

    Bram Senior Member

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    Also a weird but cool looking bike :)
     
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  13. Jan Larsen

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    The more I look at it, the less I understand the reasoning behind it. It cant be a bodge-job or a germaneering fix to a failed experiment, germans usually wont allow anything other than perfect. Any ideas why they went that route?
     
  14. Bram

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    It does make sense to me. The drops are normally the part that are less stiff and that process is now inverted. The drops are the part you'd ideally want to have as much control as possible while descending or being in the dirt. The hoods and topbar are with this system the parts that receive the most flex and comfort and are likely the parts your hands are the most on.

    All in all with the slick toptube and integrated stem it really starts to appeal to me. Now somebody only needs to slam some nice mudguards on the bike and it might be a winner :)
     
  15. Jan Larsen

    Jan Larsen Senior Member

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    Yeah, that makes sense, but I'd love to see the engineering thinking about it.
     
  16. Orione532

    Orione532 Senior Member

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    I ma starting to approviate This madness
     
  17. Bram

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    We can request an interview with Canyon about this bike and ask them :)
     
  18. Jan Larsen

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    Sure, would love to read about their thinking. I've read reviews where theories are presented, but It'd be great to hear from the actual engineer himself.
     
  19. Orione532

    Orione532 Senior Member

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    For me it is a CIA plot to un-cover 4 arms aliens...
    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark (cit. Hamlet)
     
  20. Orione532

    Orione532 Senior Member

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    By the way.... Shakespeare was a liar :)
     

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